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Alex Kaschuta's avatar

The reality is that you need a system for a household, which ideally grows organically out of the kindness and care partners have for each other, but sometimes needs a bit of structure and accountability. On the internet, the sexes are typecast into *unbearable neurotic nag* and *stonewalling deadbeat*, but most people fall somewhere in between and need some instruction to meet in the middle. Modern marriage is a novel institution and people need new tools to make it work outside of “we are equal” or “we are so different that we’re stuck im the same gender roles from 1643.” But this conversation implies openness and love and once terminal resentment is installed, I can imagine bringing up “Fair Play” is a one stop ride to the courthouse.

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James Ray's avatar

No adult is sufficiently immature that household chores meaningfully impact the success of their marriage, it is always a cypher for deeper incompatibility. Trying to save a marriage by moving around who does the dishes is stupid. If you can't manage that basic level of interpersonal conflict without outside help, you shouldn't be married to each other. Every married person who turns to books and posts like this would be better served booking a couples retreat to smoke ayahuasca and answer the hard questions about their marriage.

Having admit I view the entire discourse as misguided, I am annoyed that you've turned a portion of the rhetoric into a strawman in a transparent attempt to justify your misandry.

"Men are saying I'm neurotic because I want a clean home for my children!"

No, there's a huge space between "basic cleanliness" and "millennial gray HGTV bathroom with decorative towels you aren't supposed to use". You admit that the partner who cares more about a thing should shoulder more responsibility for it, but then you immediately start haranguing men for not caring about the things these hypothetical women care about. In any given situation either the man or the women will be correct about how clean the home needs to be, and your unwillingness to admit that a certain subset of women wildly overdo it is intellectually dishonest. The entire point of the discourse is that attempting to change what people care about is a losing proposition.

That actually demonstrates why the whole discourse is futile, actually. People don't bitch about chores because getting the chores done is actually too much to handle. They bitch about chores in an attempt to force or manipulate their partner into caring about arbitrary things, to convince themselves of their control over their partner. If you've reached that point your relationship already needs reworked from the ground-up.

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